OVNIRADIO- ICOU 03. The Invaders (Humanoid Case Histories) – “The Lilliputians, Part 1”

OVNIRADIO ICOU

03. The Invaders (Humanoid Case Histories) – “The Lilliputians, Part 1”

Nelson Polanco: Hi there, Luis, how are you?

Luis Burgos: Just fine, Nelson.

NP: I wanted to discuss a very important segment of humanoid case histories with you for some time now. It’s something that caught my attention long ago, and I mean decades. I’m referring to the “mini-classifications”, the ones that you refer to as Lilliputians.

LB: Exactly.

NP: Classifications that differ greatly from the rest, and even differ from Type I, the shortest classification, standing one meter to one meter twenty in height. These are even smaller, and would hardly reach twenty centimeters in height.

LB: Yes, yes, They would constitute a sub-classification under the creatures that stand between eighty centimeters to one meter. It’s interesting to add sub-classifications. Notice that different kinds of humanoid morphologies appear over the decades, in other words, it’s hard to find a classification that’s exactly like another. We always go by a standard – small, medium and tall – to which we then added a fourth, that covers ‘strange beings’, we put them all in the same bag. But now, in this first section, we’ll be setting aside the Lilliputians as a sub-set of Type 1. Agreed?

NP: Yes, absolutely. Matter of fact, with what you’re saying right now, we put a great deal of effort into the classification you’re discussing right now. I was even able to look into some of these cases in person. With your extensive case files on humanoids, how many cases do you have that go back to the 1950s?

LB: It’ll surprise you, but here in Argentina there aren’t that many. We’ve only tabulated eight cases. There aren’t many abroad either. It isn’t a very common classification, but whenever [a case] presents itself, it’s important to take note of it, as it leads to substantial conclusions. Here in Argentina, for example, we have a very first case that goes back to 1968 during the worldwide [UFO flap] that includes Argentina, and the latest case, from around the ‘00s, was referred to me by [UFO researcher] Quique Mario, involving ‘little men’ in a corn field in the vicinity of Macachín in southern La Pampa. The case took place in broad daylight, and a rural worker was startled by activity in the corn field. As he approached, he reportedly saw a bunch of little men, tiny, standing some 20-25 centimeters. Many of them were holding onto the corn, the kernels and the stems. Obviously, seeing this made him feel nervous, he left the place, discussed his experience, some believed him, others didn’t…Quique Mario found him to be highly credible – why would he make up such a tale, when he could’ve conjured up a better one? This was the last case. The first one was in the summer of ’68 in Gualeguay, which we have mentioned in the OVNIS Siglo XXI blog, and whose protagonist was “Teresita”. The witness lives in Buenos Aires, I’m in regular contact with her, and she was 8 years old at the time. She had a playmate, and both girls lived facing the Gualeguay station. One afternoon, playing with rags and dolls, they saw something – over by a puddle, since everything was wet after the rain – standing amid the bushes. They thought it must be some animal, and when Teresita approached the area, she said it was a little doll, but a living doll. We gave him the name “el hombrecito” (The Little Man), the Little Man of Gualeguay. As far as she was concerned it was a living doll. It was naked, with soapy skin, perhaps on account of being wet. She picked it up and was astounded. When she and her little friend headed back to the station – the playmate’s father was the station watchman at the time – the man told her: “no, that’s no little man, that’s something that fell down,” this that and the other, and took it from her. He stole it. [Teresita] was living with her grandparents at the time and she was afraid to tell them about what had happened, out of fear of being scolded. But every time she saw the watchman, she would say to him: “I want my little man back, you stole my little man.” Would you believe, Nelson, there’s no trace of this person? Years ago the two of us tried to find his whereabouts when she returned to her old stomping grounds in Gualeguay. We asked neighbors, and they said he was from the days of the military dictatorship, a very furtive type, a bully, and he stole her little man! It’s a fascinating story, but incomplete, since we don’t know what the he did with that critter, the little man. What strikes her is that there was a shooting range in the background, and she and her friend would gather up the bullet casings left behind. Much later, as a working hypothesis, we wondered if there might have been a tiny spacecraft somewhere that ejected the little man and left him there. A truly astonishing matter, but to this very day – and she’s in her sixties – it’s something that she always reminds me about. Fascinating situation, and it led me to set up the chart for Lilliputian beings.

NP: Such an interesting case, also when considering the amount of detail. It’s important when a witness provides so much detail when humanoid beings are concerned. When we analyze the material, these humanoid beings have something in common. First, they’re all anthropomorphic. There isn’t one with a single arm, for example. They all have two arms, two legs, a spinal column, eyes, mouth…right? Like you said, a little doll. These are very small beings –

LB: You’ll also recall the Puente del Inca photograph from 1969…

NP: Of course, one of the famous cases – one of the most important photos in humanoid case histories.

LB: That case was investigated by Professor Corrado, an old Mendozan researcher. I was in touch with him, as we formed FAECE in 1978, and I remember it very well, as he was heavily involved in that case. He was a relative of Professor Noviltá from Puente del Inca. They made a brief stop one summer afternoon to take a photo, and upon having it developed he managed to see not only a figure standing between 15 and 20 centimeters, but also managed to see some kind of device behind it, could have even been a spaceship. The fact is that the photo became known worldwide.

And that’s how we arrive two years later, Nelson, at a case that will startle you. In 1981, it’s a case investigated by Marcelo Martinich, the ufologist from Santa Fe….

NP: Our fondest regards to dear Marcelo, a great field researcher in southern Santa Fe.

LB: …it was a case that occurred in Arias, in southern Cordoba. At the time, there were many ‘saucer nests’ in Arias, ground effects in the arable land, information provided by a correspondent of ours at the time. The case involved a rural businessman driving a pickup truck along a road. Morning. Broad daylight. He was going past the barbed wire when he saw a landed object only a few meters into the field – an oval-shaped device with a transparent dome. He said it was a glass window with a transparent dome. He figured the device was over two meters in diameter, and had something like two ‘fish fins’ sticking out of its sides.  Interestingly, [the device] flapped these fins all the time.

NP: A highly strange detail.

LB: Very strange! It’s unheard-of. The man approached the object and claims to have seen seven or eight tiny beings. He figured they were 30 centimeters tall, and what he found most striking was that they were naked. Their skin looked like horse skin, horse hide, but completely naked – he was even able to see their penises.

NP: You mean they were naked and had penises?

LB: This man returned to his pickup truck to fetch a hammer with which to smash the glass dome – can you picture the madness? And as he went through the wire fencing to get the hammer, he felt how the object rose into the air behind him. He turned around, the object rose higher and higher, and then vanished. But there’s another major aspect – it left behind a trail of yellow smoke, like sulfur. That’s an aspect that the researcher always stressed. Here we have a band of humanoids, not just one or two.  A band of Lilliputian beings, tiny ones. This case was added not long ago, when Marcelo Martinich told me about it.

NP: So good! What a fine dossier.

LP: The subject of the Lilliputians is mind-bending. In Azul, in 1985, I looked into a case involving a business couple in downtown Azul, right beside a sewer drain. They saw a little male and female figure, wearing military uniforms. A man and a woman, measuring some 20 centimeters, according to the witnesses. What’s more, their hair was light brown, nearly blonde. As they stared at this Lilliputian couple, [the creatures] decided to conceal themselves in one of the drainage holes. They went right into the drains. They crouched a little and crept into the drain. Businesses were open, traffic was flowing, people were walking around, and since the witnesses were known to the greengrocer, they told him what they’d just seen. “Look, you’re not going to believe us, but this this and that just happened to us.”

“I’m going to believe you,” said the greengrocer. “A few years ago, a neighbor lady, who doesn’t live around here anymore, told me the exact same thing.” She had told him exactly the same story.

NP: So it was a recurrent case in that area.

LB: It was indeed a recurrent case. In Azul. That was in the year 1985, Nelson.

NP: 1985, precisely the year of the UFO flap.

LB: That’s right, the beginning of the – this was in the summer of ’85. The flap kicked off in mid-year. And we bring the subject of the Lilliputians to a close with the famous case of the IPEFE hydraulic plant around the year 1990 when a series of sightings were reported in Berisso. We gave them the name ‘las monjitas’ (the Little Nuns). The little nuns of Berisso. The little nuns were not Lilliputians – they measured 80 centimeters. So what happened? Among the swarm of cases we were looking into in Berisso’s Supe district, there was one involving the water plant. An old water plant, dating from the 1900s, where the city of Ensenada and Berisso now stand. Both cities are separated by some fifteen or twenty blocks. The remains of that old plant are still standing. We were doing research and writing articles for some capital area newspapers. Some workers from the navy yards told us that they had been walking along the tracks around ten o’clock in the morning, and they saw what they took to be an imp in the wilderness surrounding the plant. The imp was also dressed in military uniform and stood 30 centimeters tall. Keep the Azul case in mind. It was dressed in that sort of clothing – the difference being that this one was bald and bearded. The creature just looked at the men as if scanning the landscape. When it saw the humans approaching, it did an about face and lost itself in the weeds. According to the witnesses, it went under the power plant.

We ourselves went under the power plant. A dark, damp, place with strange bugs, rats, you name it. And that’s where the story ended. It happened at the same time as the ‘little nuns’ – we were told to go to the abandoned plant to look for them, since a guy riding a bicycle one night had seen them there. This new case just presented itself. So you can see what a fascinating subject this is, these Lilliputians.

NP: Also interesting to see how the witnesses relate it to local folklore, because they automatically say “they’re imps, they’re gnomes” – a notable similarity with old stories of imps and gnomes.

LB: Look at the number of times we’ve been to Punta Piedra, to the “El Descanso” wilderness, where there’s talk not only of UFOs and USOs emerging from the water, strange lights…but also about the famous “forest of the imps” spoken of by so many. We never had the chance to go there and have no witnesses, or we would have added it to the case histories.

NP: The “forest of the imps” is where we always stop when were at El Descanso. The property belongs to the Casteles, and it’s a little forest of scrub vegetation and bushes…

LB: That’s right, there’s a wire fence that leads to another property belonging to the Casteles, and well…the presence of imps is always associated with the UFO subject here. It’s so hard to separate one subject from the other.

NP: Exactly.

LB: There’s a fine thread separating one thing from another.

NP: You’ll remember another famous writer and researcher – Jacques Vallée – who wrote a book called Passport to Magonia, I must have it somewhere, where he discusses the link, the connection, between these imps and gnomes with UFOs and CE-3Ks , and the creatures that we could classify as this new subspecies.

LB: It’s not exactly new, but we’re recovering this classification that was scattered all over books. We can now collect it and feature it as a new UFO classification.

NP: Yes, exactly.

LB: Well, Nelson, let’s close this broadcast and leave room for the next installment. You have two very interesting cases that I’d like to hear about.

NP: Yes, thank you, Luis, Bye.

[Transcription and translation © 2022 Scott Corrales, Institute of Hispanic Ufology, with thanks to Luis Burgos and Nelson Polanco]

 

Peru: Venezuelan Immigrant Records UFO over Piura

 Source: OVNIS Venezuela

Date: 05.01.2022

 Peru: Venezuelan Immigrant Records UFO over Piura

 A report from Héctor Escalante

 On April 22, 2022, a Venezuelan national who has been living in Peru for the past three years was able to record the transit of a luminous object over the city of Piura, near the Ecuadoran border. The event occurred shortly before nightfall.

The witness, a publicist, but currently employed in food services, said the appearance of the object, which she initially took to be a shooting star, took her by surprise.

"That afternoon I happened to be leaving a cybercafé in downtown Piura. While waiting for the light to change so I could cross the street, I saw what I took to be a very bright star fly by, with a diminutive tail," said Yerelin Cutolo.

Thanks to the object's strange behavior, she was able to record it. "That thing was coming head-on in a straight line, and it suddenly moved up, then down, turned left and made a full stop. That's when I took out my cellphone and began recording," she explained.

This event was completely illogical for Yerelin, and she leaves it open to interpretation. "That thing was flying far too high and fast. A shooting star doesn't do that, neither do drones and satellites. Each can draw his or her own conclusion," she said.

Following this experience, she recognized that she had held a mistaken belief about the audiovisual material available on the web, showing UFO evidence. "I tried to record it as best I could. I even tried to avoid talking, but the result is beyond my skill. My apologies to those whom I always criticized for not recording sharper UFO videos. I now understand why."

 

[Translation (c) 2022 S. Corrales, IHU with thanks to Héctor Escalante]

 

Argentina: The LUCI Phenomenon (03. Yo Fui Testigo)

 

 

Sᴏᴜʀᴄᴇ: FAO-ICOU
Dᴀᴛᴇ: 04.22.2022
3. Yᴏ Fᴜɪ Tᴇsᴛɪɢᴏ - Tʜᴇ LUCI Pʜᴇɴᴏᴍᴇɴᴏɴ
(A ᴘʀᴇsᴇɴᴛᴀᴛɪᴏɴ ʙʏ Dᴇᴍᴇᴛʀɪᴏ Cʜᴀʀᴀʟᴀᴍʙᴏᴜs)

 "Dear friends, I hope you are well. How would you like it if we discussed the LUCI phenomenon? Many of you are aware of it. It is that pulsating light that appears in the night skies and gives little explanation.

 "I have seen LUCI more than a dozen times. I would like to tell you about only three of these sightings. Those were the ones that impressed me most. The first time was three years ago. I was on my way back home from a recital I'd attended at La Lucila Beach, and I walked home, a distance of some three kilometers. [The time] was around eleven o'clock at night, and I saw a pulsating light facing me, among the stars, near the Centaurus constellation (*), a light that appeared and disappeared. It moved a little in a certain direction and then reappeared at a nearby spot, unaligned with the trajectory it had been following - exactly the same as a firefly. It danced in the stratosphere.

 "I witnessed easily twenty such pulses, all of them random. In no case did it follow a single direction. It dawned on me that this could not be a satellite - a satellite always follows a trajectory, and this thing did not. It glowed at a given point, and then glowed again further behind in its path, with regard to the path it had been following, or off to one side. It shined, came and went, much like a firefly.

 "This merited giving it the name LUCI, because in this instance it behaved like a cosmic luciérnaga (firefly, in Spanish). What's most interesting is that I mentioned this to Luis [Burgos] on Facebook that very same evening, as soon as I got home, and he had other eyewitness accounts from those who had seen LUCI at the same time I'd seen it. People who were many kilometers distant from the place I'd seen it. I was in La Lucía, on the Argentine Atlantic Coast, and at the same time there were people who had seen it from Palermo, and others had seen it in La Gruta, Rio Negro, at the same time. This went to prove that those pulses of light take place high in the atmosphere, in the stratosphere, at the height of satellites. Had it been an airplane, it would not have been visible to individuals separated by a thousand or twelve hundred kilometers. The distance between Palermo, Buenos Aires and La Gruta is 1200 kilometers, or a thousand kilometers in a straight line.

 "Therefore that [object] was operating at the elevation of satellites, in the first place. Second, it couldn't be a satellite because it didn't follow a trajectory, and therefore, it was something that mimicked the behavior of a satellite, but did not imitate its movements. It was something unknown. This I understood from the first time, and well, Luis told me that many others had also seen it around 1980. It remains a phenomenon for which there are still no answers.

 "The second time I saw LUCI was a year ago, on January 25, and on this occasion it behaved differently. I realized it was LUCI because it pulsed and vanished completely, but not in the way we understand the titillation of airliner navigation lights, where one sees the airplane, or an object, and then a fixed light and another that twinkles. No, no. This was a light with the aspect of a satellite, pulsating and vanishing altogether. It pulsated once again, and on this occasion, it crossed the skies, following a straight line, pulsating. I did not want to count the pulsations because they were so many - I estimated between forty and sixty pulsations. It was like watching a train in the sky...but not the StarLink train, of which I am well aware. It's a lovely sight to see, yes, but this had nothing to do with it, because this phenomenon pulsated and then disappeared, and had no company at all. It was the only light in the sky.

 "This time I enjoyed it. I knew I was watching LUCI and it was truly a marvelous sight. It was very different from the first time. If had seen this the first time around, I would have thought it to be a satellite that turned itself on and off, although we know that satellites are so far away that should they turn lights on and off, we wouldn't see them. What we are seeing is the reflection of the sun's light against the object, and it can therefore not pulsate in such a way.

 "And the third time was about a year ago. The second time, I now realize, was two years ago, in the summer. The third time was exactly a year ago. I'd flown to Iceland and the date was February 14, on the anniversary of that initial sighting. And I think Luis had organized a skywatch that evening. It seems that LUCI likes to turn up whenever the FAO holds one of its skywatches. But I was at the other end of the world, near the Arctic Circle, and I stepped outside to see the stars, and I was really hoping to see the Aurora Borealis, which I eventually managed to see days later, as part of a tour that took me to where it could indeed be seen.

 "But that evening I got up out of my hotel - out of bed, really - in the middle of the night to see if it was possible to see the aurora. But what I saw at that time wasn't the aurora. I saw some stars that were unknown to me - the skies over the Arctic Circle were very strange to me, because Orion's belt - and indeed, all of the Orion Constellation - was flush with the horizon. The southern horizon, I don't mean that it was rising...up to that point I was familiar with the constellations, there might have been another beside it that was familiar, so the upper third of the heavens were filled with unknown stars, because the Arctic Circle has stars that cannot be seen here. So I was amazed, looking up at that unknown sky. Then LUCI showed up. It began pulsating, and it honestly stunned me.

 "To me it was a phenomenon exclusive to the Southern Hemisphere, and always close to Argentina. But here I was, at the opposite end of the world, and LUCI turns up, pulsating. Three or four times, no mistaking it. Remember I'd already seen it a few times earlier, fourteen or fifteen times. It pulsated three or four times and then on the fifth, it did something very odd, which I did not understand, as it took a fraction of a second. It was as if the light had split into two or three lights, but only for a split second. I was disconcerted, not knowing if it had doubled back - it had been following a given heading - and suddenly, it glowed at that point and *also* at the point behind. So it had doubled back, and then made a sixth pulsation farther ahead along the course it had been following. I was very disconcerted, and it never appeared again.

 "The odd thing is that back here in Argentina - as I'd learned from the Facebook page - it had also been seen. In other words, LUCI glowed in two separate locations, two different hemispheres, in a single night. LUCI does as she pleases.

 "I also wanted to remark that there are some photos taken by Lucía López which show this splitting into different lights. A photo showing three small lights instead of a single one, and this is what I saw. During one of its pulsations - which were single pulses - it split in three, really. Two or three smaller lights for a split second. Well, this is the story I wanted to share with you, and as you can see, these were three very different sightings of LUCI, even one in a different part of the world. We believed it to be a phenomenon exclusive to Argentina, but it has since been seen and photographed in Chile, the first recording by Lucía López was here in Buenos Aires, and I have seen footage from the United States of an object that behaved exactly the same way.

 "Therefore, LUCI appears to be a phenomenon initially recorded in Argentina, where it was given a name, and now it’s as though it appears at other latitudes of the planet. This is definitely not the last word on this mystery, and what I've told you here is merely another grain of sand contributed to this enigma. Thank you for listening to me. Be well."

 (*) Constellation only visible in the Southern Hemisphere

 [Transcription and translation © 2022 Scott Corrales, IHU with thanks to Luis Burgos]

Venezuela: Couple Startled by UFO in La Guaira

 

Source: OVNI VENEZUELA
Date: April 30, 2022

Venezuela: Couple Startled by UFO in La Guaira
By Héctor Escalante

Antonio Viera and his wife, Yanira Zambrano, were startled after witnessing a fly-by involving a large luminous object on the coastal state of La Guaira (formerly Vargas) in north-central Venezuela. The event occurred on February 20, 2022 after seven in the evening.

Yanira tells me that they had decided to go out to dinner that evening and went from their home in Caracas to a well-known beachfront eatery in Catia La Mar just to break the routine. They got more than they bargained for.

"We had finished dinner when suddenly, my husband saw a light in the sky. It startled him and he immediately took out his smartphone to take pictures of it. The waiter arrived at the same moment with the bill and began telling us strange stories, distracting my husband."
According to her account, the device made no noise whatsoever and was static, at least while Antonio took the photos. It vanished in a matter of seconds because, "when he looked that way again, [the object] was no longer there."

While air traffic is very common in this locality, given that Venezuela's most important airport is located there, Yanira Zambrano insists that what her husband recorded that night is unknown. "What you can see there [in the photos] does not look like a plane," she concluded.

[Translation (c) 2022 S. Corrales IHU with thanks to Héctor Escalante]

OVNI-RADIO ICOU: The Punta Lara Humanoid

Source: FAO / ICOU

Date: 04.22.22

 OVNI-RADIO ICOU: The Punta Lara Humanoid

Los Invasores - Humanoid Case Histories

By Nelson Polanco and Luis Burgos

01. The Punta Lara Humanoid

 Nelson Polanco (NP): "Good evening, dear listeners. Well, today we're bringing you a close encounter of the third kind that took place on January 21, 2019. It was the night of the eclipse - a major lunar eclipse which was visible from many parts of the country - and on that night, several cases occurred, not only the Christian Llano incident, but also various other sightings involving a green-hued UFO over districts of the city of La Plata, where we were told about these sightings involving the green light in the skies over the city. Well, we are here with Christian Llano, who had a truly wrenching experience near the island, a place known as La isla del rio Santiago (Santiago River Island), a coastal area some eight kilometers distant from downtown La Plata. Well, good evening to you Christian."

Christian Llano (CL): "Good evening, Nelson, and good evening all. Well, this occurred on the twenty-first of January, the night of the eclipse. We chose the location because it is quiet and not overly illuminated. We got our mate tea equipment ready, which is essential, something to eat, and we left home at 9 p.m. toward that location, looking forward to seeing the eclipse. It was a lovely, clear evening, and well, we headed for the location."

Nelson Polanco: "Christian, when you say, 'we went' - who were going? What did you go in, and who were involved?"

Christian Llano: "We went in my own car, a Volkswagen 1500. It was my family - my wife and two year old daughter."

NP: "Very good. In other words, you'd chosen that location to watch the eclipse."

CL: "Yes, it was a summer evening, clear skies, and we chose the site due to the low amount of light pollution and how quiet it was."

NP: "It's true. There's not much light pollution there and the skies are more clearly visible there than elsewhere. So what happened, Christian? You reached the site..."

CL: "We reached the site an hour later, around 10 p.m., had something to drink, the girl was playing, the location is so safe she can be allowed to wander at will, mindful that we were at the edge of the intake canal to the Santiago River. While we waited for the eclipse, which was going to be after midnight, we were able to see a lot of air traffic over the area coming in from Colonia in Uruguay, and...traffic departing from Aeroparque and Saiz."

NP: "A question, Christian. I know the place. It's frequented by fishermen who use the canal; it has a few boats that have run aground, abandoned there decades ago. Also, Christian, only a few meters away from where you were with your family, there's a major naval station."

CL: "Yes, there's the Escuela Naval Militar (Military Naval School) where ships are at harbor, the ones that used to belong to the merchant marine, which no longer exists and are mothballed, just anchored at the site."

NP: "Going back to the sighting you witnessed with your wife and little girl. Was this before or after the eclipse?"

CL: "No. It was before the eclipse, because when it turned midnight, the fact was that I'd misunderstood the timing of the event. The eclipse occurred later, at about two o'clock in the morning, and the baby was getting restless, so we decided to head for home. The time was 12:20 a.m. more or less."

NP: "So you missed the eclipse due to a miscalculation on your part, shall we say."

CL: "Ah, we missed it at that location. Later on, my wife and I would see it from home, from our own yard."

NP: "So what did you do? You picked up your things --"

CL: "We picked up our things and headed for home."

NP: "Not very many people around, Christian?"

CL: "It surprised me. It's a place that's popular for fishing, and there were no people there, no one around. The few people around were there to view the eclipse. I was later reminded of a myth, or a saying, about not fishing during the full moon because fish tends to spoil faster. So that's the reason I believe there weren't any fishermen at the scene.

NP: "Good. So then you started to make your way back home. I've visited the site on three or four separate occasions, and I believe I even went there on a bicycle. I think there's only one point of access to the island.

CL: "Yes, yes. There's only one way in to the naval station and Santiago Island."

NP: "I agree with you that that area, particularly that street, leading to the naval station, is very dark. It has very little lighting.

CL: "It's paved road in very good condition. It has light posts, but for some reason there's no electric supply to them, and therefore there's no light. In other words, you have the light posts, but they don't work.

NP: "So what happened on your way back? You left the naval station --

CL: "First we left Santiago Island, went past the naval station, and at roughly one kilometer from the naval station, my wife said, "Can you see that thing up ahead?" and well, I set my eyes on something I found strange. It was on the right-hand curb, on the passenger's side. Beings I estimated as standing taller than two meters (6.5 ft), lusterless silver in color, rather thin, standing on the side of the road.

NP: "How far away were you...what made you say it was a being? Was it something about their height, did something strike you?"

CL: "What struck me was their height, and their very slender physique. Very slender limbs, long, elongated."

NP: "So what caught your attention was that this wasn't a normal person?"

CL: "No, not [normal] at all."

NP: "And what was this guy doing? Was he standing facing you, sideways --?"

CL: "No, he was sideways, as if he were about to cross the street, with his head turned, as if bothered by the car's headlights."

NP: "Good."

CL: "I was driving with my low lights on."

NP: "So when you saw him, it was approximately how far away?"

CL: "Seventy or eighty meters" (230-260 ft.)

NP: "Which is about the range of the car's lights."

CL: "At that moment I checked the car's speedometer and I was driving some forty or forty-five kmh."

NP: "And what did your wife want to do?"

CL: "She wanted to stop."

NP: "Seriously? Wait, did she want to stop to have a better look, or stop to avoid going past the creature?"

CL: "First, she wanted me to stop. Then, at that moment, I turned off the car's lights to see if I could make it out better. I have a problem with my eyes that was caused by electric arc welding, which causes me to have not a distortion, but more like a reflection at night. So I turned off the lights, and I was seeing the same thing I could view with the lights on. It was a being. And when I turned off the lights, it crossed [the street]."

NP: "Right. It crossed the street?

CL: "It crossed the street. Then my wife said, go, go!"

NP: [Illegible] there was no one behind you, in the distance?"

CL: "No, not at all. Not at the moment."

NP: "So let's recap this. You were driving along in your car, on a road in perfect condition, not very well lit, and at a distance of seventy or eighty meters, you saw a being. A being of humanoid appearance, anthropomorphic, who at a given moment decided to cross the street, and who did so when you slowed down and turned off your lights."

CL: "He crossed the street."

NP: "And what did this being do?"

CL: "Crossed the street, and when he reached the opposite curb, he began penetrating the vegetation. As I drove past, I lost him from sight. Lost him at that time. And my wife said: 'don't stop' at that time. She said don't stop and I kept on going. My wife then leaned out the window and saw it peeking from the vegetation. It hid itself again and we lost sight of it.

NP: "There was a single [creature]?"

CL: "A single one."

NP: "So when the being crossed the street, it went into the tall bushes, into the cane field that's there, yet it peeked out after you'd driven by?"

CL: "Yes."

NP: "Did you both see the same thing?"

CL: "Yes, yes."

NP: "So...what happened later? Did you see anything else?"

CL: "No, we didn't see anything else."

NP: "So what else was your wife saying? Tell me, because she was very brave in putting her head out the window."

CL: "At first, she was scared. We wondered what it might have been, but no, she wasn't frightened later on. She has no problem in talking about the matter. We've returned to the site several times on later occasions, but without any luck. We were always left with the doubt about what it was we saw at that place."

NP: "Christian, I really want to thank you for talking with us about this case, which is enthralling and incredible for those of us who follow close encounters of the third kind. They're not a novelty in this location. As I told you, there have been incidents in the past. Thank you so much and good night."

[Transcription and Translation (c) 2022 S. Corrales, IHU with thanks to Nelson Polanco and Luis Burgos]